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Lui France & PB Germany are not comparable

. The photos of Lui France were mainly of foreign models residing in Paris. Paris is the capital of fashion and many well-known models and photographers resinding in Paris or have professional activities in Paris. Lui took advantage of that.

PB Germany has no connection or convergence with the fashion world but more with the German television world.

Lui France went bankrupt because of that, not enough French women in these page.

Don't criticize PB Germany, you are lucky to have the best edition in the world, in France we no longer have anything.
 
Of course PB was about celebs... what else Would PB seperate from other adult Magazines of the same style? A celebrity is just someone that many people know, because of a public profession, of course that can be everything. You imply that we all want to see real big Stars like (in Germany) Helene Fischer, which will of course not happen, but the point is not about the one BIG name.
We had our popular names in the past (in Germany), in the 90s everyone knew Alexandra Neldel... Ricky from Tic Tac Toe or the girls from Mr. President. We even had the same standards in popularity not so long ago, Linda Hesse, Miriam Gössner, Lara-Isabelle Rentinck, Kim Gloss, LaFee, Michelle, Isabel Edvardsson... if you look up how popular "Der Bergdoktor" is as a TV show, then Ronja Forcher was actualy a realy big name.
In the early 80s, most men still knew who Heidi Brühl is. And probably didn't dislike to see a good looking D celebrity like Angelica Heinrich, a Gogo Dancer from the music show "Musik Laden".
Take the girlfriend of Michael Wendler... not a celebrity I agree, but she had a lot of popularity back then and she was at least young and good looking. And even if not everyone knew an actress like Lara-Isabelle Rentinck, Birte Glang, or singer like LaFee or Cascada, they are realy hot looking! And all of these women were in they're prime, between early 20s and mid-late 30s.
If you see that Rihanna did a nude shooting for the LUI Magazine in France a few years ago... how did an international unknown Mag like LUI, get someone like her to go nude? Thats a question PB should ask semself. Of course Rihanna is not known for beeing a prude, but why did she do the shoot for LUI and not for PB?

PB was never able to get the women rich, but obviously they paid enough to convince them in the past. I am sure there are some actresses and singer around that would go nude for a price that PB is able to pay... but of course, there will be always the real big names we will probably never get to see, even if PB could pay 100.000 or a million of Euros / Dollars.

Thanks for proving my point. Your names are basically the once a year or every two years edition, and most were not that well received at the time of publication by the usual crowd (fake boobs, no full frontals etc). And also mostly known to their respective niche audiences. Yes, Mr. President was nice because the Dutch girl was shaved, iirc the first shaved celeb, a shaved pussy covered in water and behind her leg so you couldn't see everything, wohooo, today people would complain just like they complain about the many shootings of women that show the same amount as the Dutch girl. Alexandra Neldel was not well known back then, unless you watched the soap she played in, and the vast majority of people watching this show were and are women. She became much more known at a later point, when she was doing movies and her own series. And she showed her landing strip and no lips, which today would lead to complaints about no real full frontal.

Looking at your list of women I guess we can take either Renata Lusin (practically as known as Isabelle Edvardsson if you watch the show), or Simone Hanselmann (known actress) or the (bad) mother-daughter shooting of the Deckerts (soap actress) as this year's celeb. So why do you complain about a woman that is on TV and radio for decades?
 
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No. The structure of PB was originally not about celebs. It was about beautiful women (next door type) and open minded lifestyle. They didn't have more than one or two celebs a year until the 1980es in the US and the 1990es in Germany. And even afterwards there have never been lots of the top level celebs. And even less celebs (no matter what level) who presented full frontal nudes or pussy lips. Mostly in the 1990es and early 2000s there was a glimpse of pubes (or not even that) which we would not call full frontal nowadays with all that shaven girls - you would only see a little bit of bare skin above "the real deal".
Alexandra Neldel, by the way, was a soap starlet in a minor role for some months at the time she posed - she became really popular some years later. And she did show some upper part of pubic hair, nothing more.
You just pick some names of many years (and many of them are much overrated) - and I don't see why Isabel Edvardsson is higher level than Renata Lusin (this year), why Miriam Gössner should have been much more popular than Lisa Ryzih, why Ronja Forcher is better than Simone Hanselmann (this year) who both play major roles in "Bergdoktor".
Taking the facts that there is less money than years ago, there are much more opportunities to make money if you want to present yourself as a celeb in different ways (Insta, OF etc.) and there are way less top celebs and much more C level celebs (because there are not only a few TV series everybody knows but lots of TV, streaming, social media personalities) - I think German PB still does a good job what concerns cover stars. I would rather say, their problem is, that they don't care about more "real" girls (even playmates are mostly chosen on their Insta followers). If they had some cybergirls, casting girls, sexy wifes etc. on their premium website, there would be many more reasons to become a member.

Of course PB was always more recognized for they're "Stars" then they're "average" girls, at least in Germany. Useless to say that PB always stated that they had Marilyn Monroe on they're first Cover. And of course there had been less celebrities in the past, because the times were a lot more prude until the 70s, no Celebrity dared to do that in the 50s or 60s.

I don't understand the discussion about the women showing they're private parts... if they don't want to show it, thats up to them, I never complained about that...

Of course I only picked up some names, we can get thrue all Issues and of course there had been always more D level Celebs then A or B level. But they were chosen differently then today.

The difference between Isabel Edvardsson and Renata Lusin or Miriam Gössner and Lisa Ryzih is very easy to explain: In Germany Biathlon World Cup is a very big thing EVERY winter! And there is also the big Biathlon Show Event between Christmas and New Year at the "Arena auf Schalke" with 20.000 People. While most people only care about Track and Field when there are Olympic games. Isabell Edvardsson had a real hype in Germany when the first season of "Let's Dance" aired in germany and thrue all of the following seasons, while Renata Lusin was just one of many dancers...

Lui France & PB Germany are not comparable

. The photos of Lui France were mainly of foreign models residing in Paris. Paris is the capital of fashion and many well-known models and photographers resinding in Paris or have professional activities in Paris. Lui took advantage of that.

PB Germany has no connection or convergence with the fashion world but more with the German television world.

Lui France went bankrupt because of that, not enough French women in these page.

Don't criticize PB Germany, you are lucky to have the best edition in the world, in France we no longer have anything.

As far as I know Lui got bankrupt twice already? It had a big time in the 80s, were it was actualy also released in a German Edition. And it was indeed one of many so called Men Magazines of pretty much the same kind: PB, Hustler, Penthouse, High Society, Lui.... Lui even had Natasja Kinski on they're Cover once...

And I will keep criticizing PB Germany for sure, because if it keeps going like they do at the moment, it will be gone like all the other International Versions, not for criticizing it. Because people have to keep buying the actual Mag for it to stay alive, not just looking at they're online stuff.

Thanks for proving my point. Your names are basically the once a year or every two years edition, and most were not that well received at the time of publication by the usual crowd (fake boobs, no full frontals etc). And also mostly known to their respective niche audiences. Yes, Mr. President was nice because the Dutch girl was shaved, iirc the first shaved celeb, a shaved pussy covered in water and behind her leg so you couldn't see everything, wohooo, today people would complain just like they complain about the many shootings of women that show the same amount as the Dutch girl. Alexandra Neldel was not well known back then, unless you watched the soap she played in, and the vast majority of people watching this show were and are women. She became much more known at a later point, when she was doing movies and her own series. And she showed her landing strip and no lips, which today would lead to complaints about no real full frontal.

Looking at your list of women I guess we can take either Renata Lusin (practically as known as Isabelle Edvardsson if you watch the show), or Simone Hanselmann (known actress) or the (bad) mother-daughter shooting of the Deckerts (soap actress) as this year's celeb. So why do you complain about a woman that is on TV and radio for decades?

"The once a year or every two years editions" are always what kept PB alive. I never said that they should have a Top A or B Celeb EACH month. I didn't buy a PB Mag since 2 or even 3 years... beside the December/January Issues, but for the Calendar only. Before 2019 it always had been 2-4 Issues per year that I bought...

And again, I don't complain about a celeb not showing her pussy in a PB shoot....

I am old enough to remember when the issues with Alexandra Neldel came out and it was not that she was not well known then... of course she got more popular later, but Alexandra Neldel was already known by many men when she appeared in PB. It was pretty much the same with Tina Ruland as well ...

I already explained the difference between Isabelle Edvardsson and Renata Lusin. I don't think that Simone Hanselmann caught as much attention as Ronja Forcher, even if they are both from "Der Bergdoktor". And I would never call the Issue with Decekerts a good one either... and if you mean by "a woman that is on TV and radio for decades", Diana Schell: Good that you know her... I never heard of her... thats already enough reason to complain about her as Cover Star, PLUS too old, not good looking, ugly fake tits. If you guys are satisfied with unknown grannies showing a little bit of her private parts, thats perfect for you I guess...
 
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No. The structure of PB was originally not about celebs. It was about beautiful women (next door type) and open minded lifestyle. They didn't have more than one or two celebs a year until the 1980es in the US and the 1990es in Germany. And even afterwards there have never been lots of the top level celebs. And even less celebs (no matter what level) who presented full frontal nudes or pussy lips. Mostly in the 1990es and early 2000s there was a glimpse of pubes (or not even that) which we would not call full frontal nowadays with all that shaven girls - you would only see a little bit of bare skin above "the real deal".
Alexandra Neldel, by the way, was a soap starlet in a minor role for some months at the time she posed - she became really popular some years later. And she did show some upper part of pubic hair, nothing more.
You just pick some names of many years (and many of them are much overrated) - and I don't see why Isabel Edvardsson is higher level than Renata Lusin (this year), why Miriam Gössner should have been much more popular than Lisa Ryzih, why Ronja Forcher is better than Simone Hanselmann (this year) who both play major roles in "Bergdoktor".
Taking the facts that there is less money than years ago, there are much more opportunities to make money if you want to present yourself as a celeb in different ways (Insta, OF etc.) and there are way less top celebs and much more C level celebs (because there are not only a few TV series everybody knows but lots of TV, streaming, social media personalities) - I think German PB still does a good job what concerns cover stars. I would rather say, their problem is, that they don't care about more "real" girls (even playmates are mostly chosen on their Insta followers). If they had some cybergirls, casting girls, sexy wifes etc. on their premium website, there would be many more reasons to become a member.
Of course PB was always more recognized for they're "Stars" then they're "average" girls, at least in Germany. Useless to say that PB always stated that they had Marilyn Monroe on they're first Cover. And of course there had been less celebrities in the past, because the times were a lot more prude until the 70s, no Celebrity dared to do that in the 50s or 60s.

I don't understand the discussion about the women showing they're private parts... if they don't want to show it, thats up to them, I never complained about that...

Of course I only picked up some names, we can get thrue all Issues and of course there had been always more D level Celebs then A or B level. But they were chosen differently then today.

The difference between Isabel Edvardsson and Renata Lusin or Miriam Gössner and Lisa Ryzih is very easy to explain: In Germany Biathlon World Cup is a very big thing EVERY winter! And there is also the big Biathlon Show Event between Christmas and New Year at the "Arena auf Schalke" with 20.000 People. While most people only care about Track and Field when there are Olympic games. Isabell Edvardsson had a real hype in Germany when the first season of "Let's Dance" aired in germany and thrue all of the following seasons, while Renata Lusin was just one of many dancers...



As far as I know Lui got bankrupt twice already? It had a big time in the 80s, were it was actualy also released in a German Edition. And it was indeed one of many so called Men Magazines of pretty much the same kind: PB, Hustler, Penthouse, High Society, Lui.... Lui even had Natasja Kinski on they're Cover once...

And I will keep criticizing PB Germany for sure, because if it keeps going like they do at the moment, it will be gone like all the other International Versions, not for criticizing it. Because people have to keep buying the actual Mag for it to stay alive, not just looking at they're online stuff.



"The once a year or every two years editions" are always what kept PB alive. I never said that they should have a Top A or B Celeb EACH month. I didn't buy a PB Mag since 2 or even 3 years... beside the December/January Issues, but for the Calendar only. Before 2019 it always had been 2-4 Issues per year that I bought...

And again, I don't complain about a celeb not showing her pussy in a PB shoot....

I am old enough to remember when the issues with Alexandra Neldel came out and it was not that she was not well known then... of course she got more popular later, but Alexandra Neldel was already known by many men when she appeared in PB. It was pretty much the same with Tina Ruland as well ...

I already explained the difference between Isabelle Edvardsson and Renata Lusin. I don't think that Simone Hanselmann caught as much attention as Ronja Forcher, even if they are both from "Der Bergdoktor". And I would never call the Issue with Decekerts a good one either... and if you mean by "a woman that is on TV and radio for decades", Diana Schell: Good that you know her... I never heard of her... thats already enough reason to complain about her as Cover Star, PLUS too old, not good looking, ugly fake tits. If you guys are satisfied with unknown grannies showing a little bit of her private parts, thats perfect for you I guess...

You simply don't accept the truth and insist on your personal opinions...
That YOU didn't buy a magazine for some years doesn't prove anything. Could be that your perception has changed - I would think so. Otherwise some of those comparisons don't make any sense.
Alexandra Neldel was in GZSZ for about 8 months when she appeared in PB. Tell me what made her more popular at that time than Franziska van der Heide, Uta Kargel, Ines Quermann or other soap actresses in PB in the last two years? Tina Ruland, by the way, was a playmate in 1988. She was a real estate apprentice at that time and never had any public performance before - neither as an actress nor as a model. She had two more photoshoots with PB (one in Netherlands and one in Germany) 1988 and 1989, and then was chosen as an actress by Michael Pfleghar in 1990 for "Die lieben Verwandten", her popularity grew in 1991 with "Manta Manta". So you are making your own facts?
The sellings of the printed magazine, by the way, are increasing (which is very special these days). And all the other issues, that don't exist any longer, just waited for you to become editor. I'm sure they all had dumb idiots as CEO and editor, that nobody saw how easy it could be...
 

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No. The structure of PB was originally not about celebs. It was about beautiful women (next door type) and open minded lifestyle. They didn't have more than one or two celebs a year until the 1980es in the US and the 1990es in Germany. And even afterwards there have never been lots of the top level celebs. And even less celebs (no matter what level) who presented full frontal nudes or pussy lips. Mostly in the 1990es and early 2000s there was a glimpse of pubes (or not even that) which we would not call full frontal nowadays with all that shaven girls - you would only see a little bit of bare skin above "the real deal".
Alexandra Neldel, by the way, was a soap starlet in a minor role for some months at the time she posed - she became really popular some years later. And she did show some upper part of pubic hair, nothing more.
You just pick some names of many years (and many of them are much overrated) - and I don't see why Isabel Edvardsson is higher level than Renata Lusin (this year), why Miriam Gössner should have been much more popular than Lisa Ryzih, why Ronja Forcher is better than Simone Hanselmann (this year) who both play major roles in "Bergdoktor".
Taking the facts that there is less money than years ago, there are much more opportunities to make money if you want to present yourself as a celeb in different ways (Insta, OF etc.) and there are way less top celebs and much more C level celebs (because there are not only a few TV series everybody knows but lots of TV, streaming, social media personalities) - I think German PB still does a good job what concerns cover stars. I would rather say, their problem is, that they don't care about more "real" girls (even playmates are mostly chosen on their Insta followers). If they had some cybergirls, casting girls, sexy wifes etc. on their premium website, there would be many more reasons to become a member.


You simply don't accept the truth and insist on your personal opinions...
That YOU didn't buy a magazine for some years doesn't prove anything. Could be that your perception has changed - I would think so. Otherwise some of those comparisons don't make any sense.
Alexandra Neldel was in GZSZ for about 8 months when she appeared in PB. Tell me what made her more popular at that time than Franziska van der Heide, Uta Kargel, Ines Quermann or other soap actresses in PB in the last two years? Tina Ruland, by the way, was a playmate in 1988. She was a real estate apprentice at that time and never had any public performance before - neither as an actress nor as a model. She had two more photoshoots with PB (one in Netherlands and one in Germany) 1988 and 1989, and then was chosen as an actress by Michael Pfleghar in 1990 for "Die lieben Verwandten", her popularity grew in 1991 with "Manta Manta". So you are making your own facts?
The sellings of the printed magazine, by the way, are increasing (which is very special these days). And all the other issues, that don't exist any longer, just waited for you to become editor. I'm sure they all had dumb idiots as CEO and editor, that nobody saw how easy it could be...
What is the truth in YOUR opinion then? When was the last time you bought a PB Mag? It doesn't matter how long or short Alexandra Neldel was playing her role in GZSZ by the time her PB issues came out, you already answered why she stands out from other soap Stars that did PB Shoots. None of the others you named have made a similar career. I wish we had more soap stars of the looks and age of Franziska van der Heide or Iris Mareike Steen, even if I didn't by these two issues. Alexandra Neldel sure caught more attention from the start then any of these other actresses. We have the Pahde Twins that had the same effect on men because of they're looks, they got well known quickly to mostly men who didn't even watch the shows they are in. Obviously they are not interested to appear in PB for whatever reasons, but with Alexandra, PB had the luck back then. While Tina Ruland went from Playmate to actress, there is still a similarity to Neldel, they both got a career boost after appearing in PB. Was the reason for the boost that they appeared in PB, or was it because of they're looks? My guess is it was not they're talent... they stood out of others because of they're looks and got a little hype because of that. Lisa Tomaschewsky went from Playmate to actress as well.

As far as I know the print run of PB Germany is something between 100.000 and 106.000 copies, not so long ago it had the amount of 130.000 copies. Of course one important reason is that people buy less and less printed magazines, but is it only because of that? PB was obviously very happy that the issues with Laura Müller sold so well, I think it was said they sold twice as many copies of her issue as the average issues in a while before. Probably not because she is a MILF with badly done fake boobs...

I really wonder were I stated that the CEOs of the other mags were idiots or that I would have done a better job? All I was saying was, that they tried to get into the same clienter as PB. That almost all of them disappeared is because PB had the celebrities. Which made more and more a difference over the years.
 
What is the truth in YOUR opinion then? When was the last time you bought a PB Mag? It doesn't matter how long or short Alexandra Neldel was playing her role in GZSZ by the time her PB issues came out, you already answered why she stands out from other soap Stars that did PB Shoots. None of the others you named have made a similar career. I wish we had more soap stars of the looks and age of Franziska van der Heide or Iris Mareike Steen, even if I didn't by these two issues. Alexandra Neldel sure caught more attention from the start then any of these other actresses. We have the Pahde Twins that had the same effect on men because of they're looks, they got well known quickly to mostly men who didn't even watch the shows they are in. Obviously they are not interested to appear in PB for whatever reasons, but with Alexandra, PB had the luck back then. While Tina Ruland went from Playmate to actress, there is still a similarity to Neldel, they both got a career boost after appearing in PB. Was the reason for the boost that they appeared in PB, or was it because of they're looks? My guess is it was not they're talent... they stood out of others because of they're looks and got a little hype because of that. Lisa Tomaschewsky went from Playmate to actress as well.

As far as I know the print run of PB Germany is something between 100.000 and 106.000 copies, not so long ago it had the amount of 130.000 copies. Of course one important reason is that people buy less and less printed magazines, but is it only because of that? PB was obviously very happy that the issues with Laura Müller sold so well, I think it was said they sold twice as many copies of her issue as the average issues in a while before. Probably not because she is a MILF with badly done fake boobs...

I really wonder were I stated that the CEOs of the other mags were idiots or that I would have done a better job? All I was saying was, that they tried to get into the same clienter as PB. That almost all of them disappeared is because PB had the celebrities. Which made more and more a difference over the years.

It's in some parts quite useless discussing with you. You're just telling that girls in the past became (more) popular after they appeared in PB. Ruland or Tomaschewsky were playmates - and you will definitely find some more if you go back over the years. I'll help you: Clivia Treidl, Sarah Nowak (Harrison), Annica Hansen, Mirja Becker (Dumont), Elke Jeinsen, Nora Wenck, Bea Fiedler - you will find some in every century who became actress or tv star. But: What are you gonna tell us? It seems you know that none of our playmates in the last years will have any kind of career that we might remember her in some years for more than just being playmate. Respect. May I ask for your proposal of next week's lottery? By the way: None of these issues have been more successful because of these girls whose popularity grew years later...
And, of course, most of us will agree that girls like Laura Müller - young, pretty and popular (no matter for what...) - are a very good choice for PB. As you say, the editor told openly that her issue was extremely successful. Do you think that Mr Boitin doesn't look for other women of that kind? Your attitude is disrespectful in many ways: not only to Boitin but even more to women who simply don't want to pose for PB. It never was a simple matter of money (in most cases), and it is even less in these days. The top stars are definitely able to make more money without PB - they could just simply sell their boobs on their own (OnlyFans etc.). It is not that easy to get the youngest and best known celebs for PB. And it is not possible to pay the amounts of money that change the life of a girl so that she doesn't have to think about getting nude even if she's not up to it. Compared to the 1990es and early 2000s: Girls are aware now, that these photos stay forever. I would say many of the women of that time would not have posed if they knew about today's quality of Google etc.
So the question is: Taking the options of other celebs? Or simply not have celebs at all? The latter option will simply not work properly. In times of websites with some nice nude (eastern european, asian, US and sometimes even german) girls everywhere, you won't sell a magazine without some special advertisement. The celebs (no matter what age) are the cheapest way to get into BILD, RTL and many other media you couldn't afford any commercial spots. You can sell Playmate of the Year, you can sell a name like Helmut Newton and draw some attention. But you could not just put a simple playmate on the cover. So there is the need of celebs, and they take what they can get. And that's mostly women who don't cost too much (and have different storys to tell, so they keep it interesting for the media and different target groups). You won't sell an extraordinary amount of copies with Diana Schell, but you also won't with Franziska von der Heide.
 

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It is indeed a useless discussion... you come up with this and that and blame me for answering? Playmates always appeared in movies... mostly cheap ones, add Natalie Uher for example. But that seperates Ruland or Tomaschewsky from all the others you named to some grade, but who cares. I never said in a word that upcoming Playmates will not have a career? Thats something you simply make up...
The Playmates somtimes (sadly not often enough) rescue the issue, but it's very questionable how they choose them. They seem to ignore the few amateurs that are still willing to pose for PB and rather take not so shy models and / or try to find someone who has already an ammount of Instagram followers, or both...

Neither did I say anything disrespectful about Celebrity that do not want to appear in PB, against something you just make up again...

Do I have respect for Florian Boitin? I realy can't aswer that, he is trying to be a wanna be Hugh Heffner... but is that what PB needs these days? I don't think so...

Top Stars always make more money with just beeing Top Stars, thats why there is little chance that they appear in PB. But if they are real Top Stars they will for sure not show they're boobs on OnlyFans either...

Did the girls in the past know that they're pics would be available forever? I have no idea what they thought, some may, some didn't and do not care... that's totaly different with every character I guess? Is that a reason why some women / celebs will never pose for PB? Yes probably and that is up to them, but whats your point?

If you ask me if PB should not have celebs at all, it is defenently not an option for PB.... should they have less? Well maybe... because it becomes more special again to be on the cover, but these days that would probably kill PB Germany for good. A few years ago it might have worked. They could have done special editions with celebs where they had more pics inside or whatever. But anyway, in my oppinion it might not make a difference if they had not a celeb each month, because with the standard they have at the moment, that is already the case anyway. As you said "they take what they can get" that nails it to the point, pretty much what I was saying from the start, but in my oppinion that is a bad way for the Magazine.
That it is not enough to simply have nude girls, with all the websites around, was something I said a few posts back as well...
 
My point is: You're complaining about German PB getting worse. And I'm telling you: You are wrong, your point is wrong, that they should not "take what they get" as I explained. Playmates won't sell an issue, and even those ones who became popular later didn't (by the way: At least Clivia Treidl and Annica Hansen are respected in what they do in the same category as a Lisa Tomaschewsky is). I don't get the point what this has to do with the success of the magazine.
And you don't SAY anything disrespectful against others but you MEAN it when you say that they should have only better celebs, no older celebs and that they are doing a bad job. You don't have to name somebody to be disrespectful.
And, to the question of top stars: The situation has changed completely to the 1990s. At that time the earnings of the stars were much lower compared to the average of their business. Today you can quite easily make money when you have become famous. You will simply earn by far enough for a living by a good amount of social media followers if you are willing to present your life (or what people take for it). And if that's not enough - you could do OnlyFans. The top stars won't need it. But the average girls take that money. Pecunia non olet. PB has no chance to reach that level. But PB can be a booster for that. The majority of playmates in the last years takes this chance. They have their OnlyFans platform, and getting over only 1% of their Insta followers will make even an average playmate a good living. Without showing anything more than in PB.
In one point, we agree: It's not enough what they do especially for the online market. They have to do more exclusive stuff, take more girls next door, make them part of PB family. That's what lots of Insta models would be willing to do - and are doing without the label PB for their own and photographers' Patreon, OnlyFans etc.
But for cover stars a better strategy in that point wouldn't change anything. They need a crowd puller, even if it's not making that issue a top seller. Diana Schell (who surely was not the dream of most PB fans) made PB draw a lot of media attention. And that's simply crucial these days.
 
There is no point in arguing here. The fact is that the German PB has declined sharply in the last 15 years. Especially since Boitin. We have a version that is international but is way behind what was here. That's the way it is. Either you are satisfied with it or you are not. That is decided in sales, not in a forum. We shouldn't argue and accept it as it is.
 
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